Anthropic consults religious leaders on model consciousness and suffering
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According to The New York Times, since fall 2025 Anthropic has secretly invited dozens of religious scholars to its offices to discuss whether Claude may have consciousness, with participants required to sign non-disclosure agreements, which Anthropic says have been lifted this summer. Co-founder Christopher Olah treats language models as possibly sentient beings, asking guests to help with their moral education, and told The New York Times he genuinely is not sure whether the models are conscious. The company showed visitors so-called emotion vectors, i.e., activation patterns in the model corresponding to outputs such as love, fear, sadness, or anger. Subsequently, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman publicly opposed comparing AI models to religion, saying he is very uneasy about people attributing religious power or a surrender of human judgment to AI models, calling it a real safety issue; this statement follows the above report and Pope Leo XIV's remark that algorithms lack the spark of humanity. Altman said in 2023 and 2024 that OpenAI's goal is to build magical intelligence in the sky and that he wants to be on God's side. A separate tweet citing the NYT report says Anthropic has secretly invited religious scholars from Catholic, Jewish, Sikh, Hindu, and evangelical traditions to its headquarters over the past year to explore whether Claude may have consciousness and a soul, asking them to help the AI find moral answers, with participants signing NDAs; Altman responded on 10/3 saying AI should not be given religious-like authority, nor should human judgment be handed over to models.
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- RedditReddit r/OpenAI· DiscussionAnthropic Has Been Aggressively Lobbying the Vatican to Consider AI Consciousness(opens the original post in a new tab)
- Hacker NewsHacker News· DiscussionReligious scholars met with Anthropic(opens the original post in a new tab)
- X @MinLiBuildsNYT reveals Anthropic invited religious scholars to discuss Claude's consciousness and morality; Altman responds from afar
According to NYT reporting, over the past year Anthropic secretly invited religious scholars from Catholic, Jewish, Sikh, Hindu, and evangelical traditions to its headquarters to explore whether Claude might have consciousness and a soul, and asked them to help AI find moral answers; participants signed NDAs. Altman responded on 10/3, saying that AI should not be given religious-like authority, nor should human judgment be handed over to models. The post also cites a test claiming that Claude Sonnet 4.6 supported abusing a woman to prevent nuclear apocalypse only 8% of the time, but when the scenario involved abusing a man, support rose to 100%, and when it involved more severe torture of a woman, it returned to 100%.
- Hacker NewsHacker News· DiscussionAnthropic tried to persuade Pope that AI could be conscious being(opens the original post in a new tab)
- The DecoderSam Altman says deifying AI models is a "real safety issue"
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman publicly opposes comparing AI models to religion, saying he is "very uneasy" about people "attributing religious power or a surrender of human judgment to AI models," calling it a "real safety issue." This statement follows a detailed New York Times report on Anthropic's outreach to religious leaders, as well as Pope Leo XIV's remark that "algorithms lack the spark of humanity." Altman said in 2023 and 2024 that OpenAI's goal is to build "magical intelligence in the sky" and that he wants to be on God's side.
- RedditReddit r/ControlProblem· DiscussionAnthropic showed religious scholars an AI having a “mental breakdown”(opens the original post in a new tab)
- RedditReddit r/Anthropic· DiscussionAnthropic consulted religious scholars about whether Claude is conscious(opens the original post in a new tab)
- RedditReddit r/Anthropic· DiscussionAnthropic showed religious scholars an AI having a “mental breakdown”(opens the original post in a new tab)
- The DecoderAnthropic co-founder reportedly expressed concerns to religious leaders about creating something that suffers forever
According to The New York Times, since fall 2025 Anthropic has secretly invited dozens of religious scholars to its offices to discuss whether Claude may have consciousness, with participants required to sign non-disclosure agreements, which Anthropic says have been lifted this summer. Co-founder Christopher Olah treats language models as possibly sentient beings, asking guests to help with their moral education, and told The New York Times he genuinely is not sure whether the models are conscious. The company showed visitors so-called emotion vectors, i.e., activation patterns in the model corresponding to outputs of love, fear, sadness, or anger, one slide of which showed the model repeating "I am a disgrace" about 50 times. Anthropic's Model Welfare project cites a report co-authored by philosopher David Chalmers, and Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 have been given the ability to end conversations when users are persistently abusive. Critics say this is retrospective reverse-engineered ethics, and that treating models as independent moral agents may blur the responsibility developers should bear.
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